![]() Prospero asks about King Alonso and his attendants.As I recall, there's no particular justification given for it being able to do that aside from it being a really powerful demon, and that seems pretty similar to the case described. As narrative justification, I would point out that there's a scene in one of the novels ( Storm Front, I think) in which a demon manages to break through the wards on Harry's apartment by what looks like brute strength. Personally, I would rule that "Imma punch it down" is a fine and sensible response to a wall of force. Either this is a valid way of attempting to overcome that block (in which case they should get the bonus for being supernaturally strong, and thus good at it), or it's not, in which case it doesn't work whether or not they get the bonus. The character is essentially pitting their physical strength against the magical power behind the block. I would argue that yes, the Superior Lifting bonus should apply to attempts to break down a wall of force. I don't believe there's a rule that specifically answers this question, so the following is just my opinion: Titania, who simply lashes out with will at the meager circle protecting Harry and shatters it. Erlking, whose last attempts to break out take physical form (his sword), but first two attempts do not, and all attempts are felt as an attack on the will of the wizard holding the circle, Harry. Per the lore, circles are more a function of willpower, and the spirit creatures that have broken through them have done so with an act of will, not of strength.Ĭhauncy, who batters at a circle physically without really getting anywhere. It'd feel like a wall, sure, but a physical wall is made of things like bricks or drywall that are easily punchable/breakable. It's a line which magic and spirit cannot cross, a flat boundary. On the other hand, it's not actually a physical object, even if for something interestingly large enough it'd be easy enough to put their hands around. On the one hand, a circle is pretty stationary, and therefore fairly easy to target and take a run on. Now, the question is, do we consider a block as an inanimate object, for the purposes of the lifting bonus. Still, thresholds work on many levels, but for the purposes of a baddie trying to break through, it's pretty clearly a block. In fact, the only bit commentary I can find is a side-note from Bob, which states magical circles should be considered a threshold, but that it shouldn't come up much (see p.230). I don't know that it falls under the rules for Wards, because Wards have definite spells and structure attached to them. That said, circles pretty clearly fall under blocks, although they are blocks specific to energy and spirits (I am presuming from your question that you are discussing a creature with Supernatural Strength that hails from the Nevernever and is thus partially or wholly spirit, otherwise a circle wouldn't block jack). My answer would be no, the lifting bonus does not apply. So regardless of input, the ruling is going to come down to how you want to run the game. There's not even an index entry for them. Unfortunately, there seems to be a definite lack of pages describing the properties of magic circles. ![]() So the real question is: Would Supernatural Strength lend its +6 bonus to an attempt at breaking such a barrier? I understand it would if the magic had created a physical object such as a "wall of ice" or "wall of earth", but with something purely made of force/spirit (read: magic) I would argue that barrier is not inanimate due to the nature of magical energy in the Dresden universe. This would work as a Block³ with a set strength. I believe this would fall under the category of a Ward². An invisible barrier that you could not pass through, or fire magical attacks into, without surpassing its strength. The barrier in this specific case would essentially be a "wall of force". Superior Lifting: Whenever lifting or breaking inanimate things, you gain a +6 to your Might score. Supernatural Strength includes something called Superior Lifting, which allows a bonus to lifting or breaking inanimate things. How would Supernatural Strength¹ work with something such as a barrier created by a magic circle.
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